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Two of the key tools that Indymedia activists use for communication and collaboration are email lists and wiki pages. UK Indymedia activists have made extensive use of lists hosted by the [http://lists.indymedia.org/ global list server] and of the [https://docs.indymedia.org/ global Indymedia wiki] over the last decade. But at the end of May 2011 key lists were shutdown without agreement and activists had their wiki accounts deleted by the global Indymedia network.
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  Title:        New Email Lists and Wiki for UK Indymedia
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  By:          UK Indymedia Features
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  URL:          https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features
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  Email:        features at indymedia.org.uk
  
In response the Indymedia UK site has set up [http://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ new email lists] for people who wish to contact the site admins, or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation.
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==Long Version==
  
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Two of the key tools that Indymedia activists use for communication and collaboration are email lists and wiki pages. UK Indymedia activists have made extensive use of lists hosted by the [http://lists.indymedia.org/ global Indymedia list server] and of the [https://docs.indymedia.org/ global Indymedia wiki] over the last decade. But at the end of May 2011 key lists were shutdown without agreement and wiki accounts deleted.
  
These lists were set up after bou from IMC London and Be The Media, closed down the lists which were in use, [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/2011-May/0529-2v.html claiming] that there was a consensus for her actions, following calls by the Be The Media collectives for IMC UK site admins to be denied further access to global indymedia resources including mailing lists, irc, docs.indymedia.org and DNS is denied to the group. Shortly thereafter bou wrote another email stating that ''"[It]seems there is disagreement strong enough to grant a halt in this action so I am closing this ticket now. Only the first point was done."'' The email was hidden as it contained personal details of mayday members but is quoted [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/listwork/2011-June/0603-bh.html here].
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In response to this situation, [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ new email lists] have been set up for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a [https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/ new wiki site] for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a new [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/users Users list] for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/moderation Moderation], [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features Features] or [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech Tech] lists.  
  
Both the features and moderation lists had over 100 subscribers, none of whom were made aware of where discussions would be taking place. The admins of the Indymedia UK site responded by setting up a new list server at [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo lists.indymedia.org.uk] and invites will shortly be sent out to subscribers of the archived lists inviting them to join the new [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features Features] [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech Tech] and [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/moderation Moderation] lists. Those wishing to contact site admins in confidence can now use the [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/contact  Contact List]
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'''Links: [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ lists.indymedia.org.uk] | [https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/ wiki.indymedia.org.uk]'''
  
In addition UK Indymedia activists have had their accounts deleted from the global wiki site at [https://docs.indymedia.org/ docs.indymedia.org] and subsequent to this key pages have been deleted and edited, so a new [https://wiki.indymedia.org/uk/ wiki.indymedia.org.uk] site has also been set up.
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[[Image:Listwiki.png]]
  
The attempts to expel IMC UK site admins from Indymedia communications resources has already seen several protest resignations by techs outside of the dispute, and has caused extra work for techs who have not been party to the dispute. SSL certification for most Indymedia sites was lost as a direct result of the punitive measures. It cannot be a coincidence that the authoritarian measures proposed by the Be The Media collectives would serve to reduce the opportunities for Indymedia UK site admins to communicate with the IMC global network.
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Following the list closures and wiki account deletions it was acknowledged that there was strong disagreement in the global network about the list closures and related proposed actions and the process of removal and expulsion was stalled and has perhaps now halted. However, no steps have been taken to reactivate the closed lists or reinstate deleted wiki accounts.
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Both the [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/ imc-uk-features] and [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-moderation/ imc-uk-moderation] lists had over 100 subscribers, none of whom were made aware of where discussions would be taking place following the closures. In these circumstances, anyone attempting to report a moderation issue or propose a feature was not able to do so.
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To begin to remedy the problems caused by the list closures invites will shortly be sent out to subscribers of the archived lists inviting them to join the new [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features Features], [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech Tech] and [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/moderation Moderation] lists. Those wishing to contact site admins in confidence can now use the new [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/contact  Contact List]
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The attempts to expel IMC UK site admins from Indymedia communications resources has already seen several protest resignations by techs outside of the dispute, and has caused extra work for techs who have not been party to the dispute. SSL certification for most Indymedia sites was lost as a direct result of the punitive measures.
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==Super Brief Version==
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Following the ongoing internal controversies within Indymedia the UK site now has [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ new email lists] for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a [https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/ new wiki site] for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/users new Users list] for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/moderation Moderation], [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features Features] or [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech Tech] lists.
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==Rather Brief Version==
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Two of the key tools that Indymedia activists use for communication and collaboration are email lists and wiki pages. UK Indymedia activists have made extensive use of lists hosted by the [http://lists.indymedia.org/ global Indymedia list server] and of the [https://docs.indymedia.org/ global Indymedia wiki] over the last decade. But at the end of May 2011 key lists were shutdown without agreement and wiki accounts deleted.
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[[File:Wikilists1.jpg]]
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In response to this situation, [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ new email lists] have been set up for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a [https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/ new wiki site] for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a new [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/users Users list] for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/moderation Moderation], [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features Features] or [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech Tech] lists.
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'''Links: [https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ lists.indymedia.org.uk] | [https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/ wiki.indymedia.org.uk]'''
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== Content Removed==
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and the opportunities for Indymedia UK site admins to communicate with the IMC global network are now extremely limited.
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Subsequently to the UK Indymedia activists have had their wiki accounts deleted on [https://docs.indymedia.org/ docs.indymedia.org] some key pages have been deleted and edited, in the name of the [https://docs.indymedia.org/Main/NorThern "Northern Indymedia wiki-secretary"] Northern IMC have clarified that this action was not taken by its collective and that they do not know who carried out the attack.
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The [http://lists.indymedia.org.uk/ new lists] were set up after bou from IMC London and Be The Media, closed down the [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/ imc-uk-features] and [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-moderation/ imc-uk-moderation] lists, which were still in use, [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/2011-May/0529-2v.html claiming] that there was a consensus for her actions, following calls by the Be The Media collectives for IMC UK site admins to  be denied further access to global Indymedia resources including mailing lists, irc and docs.indymedia.org. Shortly thereafter bou wrote another email stating that ''"[It] seems there is disagreement strong enough to grant a halt in this action so I am closing this ticket now. Only the first point was done."'' The email was hidden as it contained personal details of Mayday members but is [http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/listwork/2011-June/0603-bh.html quoted here]. In spite of bou's acknowledgement of strong disagreement about these actions, (which was in addition to that expressed by Mayday collective members whose voice was not considered to count in the global network), no steps have yet been taken to reactivate the closed lists.
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Latest revision as of 18:51, 4 July 2011

New Email Lists and Wiki for UK Indymedia

 Title:        New Email Lists and Wiki for UK Indymedia
 By:           UK Indymedia Features
 URL:          https://lists.indymedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/features 
 Email:        features at indymedia.org.uk

Long Version

Two of the key tools that Indymedia activists use for communication and collaboration are email lists and wiki pages. UK Indymedia activists have made extensive use of lists hosted by the global Indymedia list server and of the global Indymedia wiki over the last decade. But at the end of May 2011 key lists were shutdown without agreement and wiki accounts deleted.

In response to this situation, new email lists have been set up for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a new wiki site for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a new Users list for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the Moderation, Features or Tech lists.

Links: lists.indymedia.org.uk | wiki.indymedia.org.uk

Listwiki.png

Following the list closures and wiki account deletions it was acknowledged that there was strong disagreement in the global network about the list closures and related proposed actions and the process of removal and expulsion was stalled and has perhaps now halted. However, no steps have been taken to reactivate the closed lists or reinstate deleted wiki accounts.

Both the imc-uk-features and imc-uk-moderation lists had over 100 subscribers, none of whom were made aware of where discussions would be taking place following the closures. In these circumstances, anyone attempting to report a moderation issue or propose a feature was not able to do so.

To begin to remedy the problems caused by the list closures invites will shortly be sent out to subscribers of the archived lists inviting them to join the new Features, Tech and Moderation lists. Those wishing to contact site admins in confidence can now use the new Contact List

The attempts to expel IMC UK site admins from Indymedia communications resources has already seen several protest resignations by techs outside of the dispute, and has caused extra work for techs who have not been party to the dispute. SSL certification for most Indymedia sites was lost as a direct result of the punitive measures.

Super Brief Version

Following the ongoing internal controversies within Indymedia the UK site now has new email lists for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a new wiki site for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a new Users list for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the Moderation, Features or Tech lists.

Rather Brief Version

Two of the key tools that Indymedia activists use for communication and collaboration are email lists and wiki pages. UK Indymedia activists have made extensive use of lists hosted by the global Indymedia list server and of the global Indymedia wiki over the last decade. But at the end of May 2011 key lists were shutdown without agreement and wiki accounts deleted.

Wikilists1.jpg

In response to this situation, new email lists have been set up for people who wish to contact the site admins or to be involved in discussions about features and moderation. There is also a new wiki site for UK Indymedia related documents. In addition there is now a new Users list for users of this site to raise matters which are not covered by the Moderation, Features or Tech lists.

Links: lists.indymedia.org.uk | wiki.indymedia.org.uk

Content Removed

and the opportunities for Indymedia UK site admins to communicate with the IMC global network are now extremely limited.

Subsequently to the UK Indymedia activists have had their wiki accounts deleted on docs.indymedia.org some key pages have been deleted and edited, in the name of the "Northern Indymedia wiki-secretary" Northern IMC have clarified that this action was not taken by its collective and that they do not know who carried out the attack.

The new lists were set up after bou from IMC London and Be The Media, closed down the imc-uk-features and imc-uk-moderation lists, which were still in use, claiming that there was a consensus for her actions, following calls by the Be The Media collectives for IMC UK site admins to be denied further access to global Indymedia resources including mailing lists, irc and docs.indymedia.org. Shortly thereafter bou wrote another email stating that "[It] seems there is disagreement strong enough to grant a halt in this action so I am closing this ticket now. Only the first point was done." The email was hidden as it contained personal details of Mayday members but is quoted here. In spite of bou's acknowledgement of strong disagreement about these actions, (which was in addition to that expressed by Mayday collective members whose voice was not considered to count in the global network), no steps have yet been taken to reactivate the closed lists.